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R&B Monday Discussion Group 20/1/25 Labour’s Welfare Reforms

Posted on 22/01/2025 by Malcolm

The Independent R&B Discussion Group recently gathered to examine pressing issues in welfare reform and local government policy. The session, marked by diverse expertise and in-depth analysis, shed light on challenges and potential paths forward.

Modernising Welfare: Incremental Changes, Broader Implications

The Council Tax Reduction Scheme saw updates, including the abolition of the two-child limit for pensioners. Paul Howarth highlighted these adjustments, but also pointed to outdated administrative requirements that demand urgent modernisation. The consensus was clear: piecemeal changes fail to address deeper structural issues in welfare delivery.

Pensions and the Triple Lock Debate

The future of the triple lock on state pensions spurred lively debate. While its role in protecting pensioners’ incomes is widely recognised, concerns over sustainability remain. Laura Bessell and Gareth Morgan explored proposals like means-testing or limiting the triple lock to pension credit recipients, reflecting on the tension between political popularity and economic reality.

Disability and Long-Term Sickness Support

Proposals to reform Personal Independence Payments (PIP) and work capability assessments were met with caution. Gareth Morgan underscored the importance of adhering to a social model of disability, warning against a shift towards a purely medical approach. Kirsty Brooksmith drew attention to the pandemic’s role in exacerbating hidden disabilities, urging for policies that account for this growing need.

Fraud and Error: A Persistent Struggle

Efforts to combat fraud and error remain a central focus, but contributors like Laura Bessell questioned the feasibility of the government’s proposed measures. Many pointed out that previous cuts to experienced fraud staff have left a significant gap in capacity, raising doubts about the effectiveness of renewed crackdowns.

The Role of Localism and Devolution

Devolution and localism emerged as pivotal themes, with contributors debating their potential to streamline service delivery. However, Sean O’Sullivan and others voiced concerns about fragmented systems within local authorities, particularly in multi-tier governance structures. Gareth Morgan suggested leveraging existing schemes like Disabled Facilities Grants to avoid duplicative efforts.

Data Sharing and Technology: Promises and Pitfalls

The promise of technology and data sharing to unify systems was met with tempered optimism. Naomi Armstrong pointed out that while improved coordination could reduce fraud and inefficiencies, significant barriers remain in ensuring such systems are used effectively across departments.


This discussion underscored the complexities of welfare and local government reform, highlighting the need for policies that balance practicality with compassion. As the group delved into the intricacies of pensions, disability support, and administrative efficiency, one takeaway was clear: thoughtful, collaborative approaches will be essential to navigating these challenges in the years to come.

The recording can be found at https://bit.ly/4hpOh8S.

Files and reports to be downloaded:

IR&BDG 20250120Download
ADCS_Safeguarding_Pressures_Phase9_FINALv1Download
CBP-10142Download
Consultation on the Provisional Local Government Finance Settlement 2025_26 _ Local Government AssociationDownload
Council Tax information letter 2_2025_ Local Council Tax Support schemes for 2025-26 – GOV.UKDownload
HO-Q1-2025Download
LA Welfare Direct 1_2025 – GOV.UKDownload
Local Government Pension Scheme (England and Wales)_ Fit for the future – GOV.UKDownload
Local_government_reorganisation_-_letter_to_two-tier_areasDownload
Pensioner-poverty-16-jan-final-pdf-v2Download
Whose-price-is-it-anywayDownload
DWP_Government_Major_Projects_Portofolio_AR_Data_March_2024Download

Please note that the handout contains additional slides covering other items of interest in the news and job adverts, which are provided in partnership with Business Smart Solutions (https://www.businesssmartsolutions.co.uk/).

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